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wtf over i havent got crap!

Originally Posted by pickviper

how long did it take to get the cards? been over a month since the dealer confirmed the millage. went online first then to dealer isn't that all i had to duo?

2 weeks from dealer to in my hands

how long did it take to get the cards? been over a month since the dealer confirmed the millage. went online first then to dealer isn't that all i had to duo?

Originally Posted by SpikeFiend

So when it's Ford, a 10mpg drop is "good ol' 'merican boys havin fun". But Hyundai/Kia show a drop of 1-2 mpg and it's some sort of foreign terrorist conspiracy plot to destroy the world.

I'm sure crap gas and angry drivers contribute to low fuel economy numbers on all cars, but somehow only certain brands are demonized (even after they reimburse you the difference).

Here's an interesting article from Consumer reports basically stating why Ford is gaming the EPA system:
Why do Ford's new hybrids ace the EPA fuel economy tests?

Here's another article about the Cmax, and that it's not able to get 47mpg cruising at a constant speed on level ground (whereas the Prius meets or exceeds it's EPA numbers).
Review: 2013 Ford C-Max Hybrid (Video) | The Truth About Cars

It's a case of consumer demands and government regulations to get high mpg vehicles, without sacrificing any safety or comfort. There is a barrier at which conventional cars can't get any higher mpg's, so they just stretch their estimates. I'm sure you can get the EPA numbers in both the Kia/Hyundais and the Fords, but it will take a level of driving that is unacceptable to most people.

Mountains out of molehills my friend. That was a generic statement in regard to vehicles across the board. Originally my current car was rated at 31mpg highway then that company dropped the official rating to 29 because of complaints by owners. I achieve 36.5mpg highway driving 70mph. I use top tier gasoline (93 octane required). All I'm saying is most people with complaints haven't adjusted their driving style in accordance with the type of car they are driving.


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Originally Posted by cubancaddy

I checked my second tank of fuel on the new VT,

Give it some time and miles. Mine mileage much better now then when it was brand new.

Originally Posted by mustang8918

It usually reads a few high for me too just like the speedometer which is also off.

Much like 99% of the cars on the road, the speedo and fuel economy gauges can be off slightly. Far too many changes in tire wear, load, climate. etc.

You knew something has to give when knowing the Toyota/Ford hybrid technology was so similar that it couldn't be as simple as Ford makes it sound. Bigger engine, more speed and better fuel efficiency... That sounded wrong from the get go. But I must say I've always been biased towards Prius as I see them as the tried and true. They aren't without their faults but they have a long proven track record that is strong. Unless the gas efficiency really gets you that excited, I don't ever give up my car to drive the hybrid... ever! I've sat in the driver seat once to adjust my seating preferences and saved it to memory. I haven't been in that seat ever again...

EDIT: Some of the stuff on the C-Max seem alright but man the exterior is fugly! To me at least. I've really grown to like the Prius V look in that dark blue. I really love the way the CT200h looks too =) It's like night and day between the Prius/CT lookwise compared to the C-Max. Again to me...

It usually reads a few high for me too just like the speedometer which is also off.

I checked my second tank of fuel on the new VT, and my calculated mileage was lower than what the average mileage indicated. The average was 27.5, and when I calculated it was 25.2.. disappointed.

Originally Posted by SkyriderAR

I bought a Christmas present with mine. I told the clerk the exact amount on the card and he cleaned it out. Nothing left. Worked like a charm as a credit card, not debit. Most places require a pin with a debit card.

I tried to use as a credit card as well -- no go -- Mobil needs some training on this? Probably.

I bought a Christmas present with mine. I told the clerk the exact amount on the card and he cleaned it out. Nothing left. Worked like a charm as a credit card, not debit. Most places require a pin with a debit card.

After 3 weeks of having the card, I tried to use it today at a Mobil station -- he would not accept this card! WTF -- I explained it was a pre-paid debit card and could not be used at the pump. What else could I have told him? GRRR. I used my Amazon reward card (more points for me) instead.

Originally Posted by Aeroscout977

10MPG low on winter gas and poor drivers possibly...

So when it's Ford, a 10mpg drop is "good ol' 'merican boys havin fun". But Hyundai/Kia show a drop of 1-2 mpg and it's some sort of foreign terrorist conspiracy plot to destroy the world.

I'm sure crap gas and angry drivers contribute to low fuel economy numbers on all cars, but somehow only certain brands are demonized (even after they reimburse you the difference).

Here's an interesting article from Consumer reports basically stating why Ford is gaming the EPA system:
Why do Ford's new hybrids ace the EPA fuel economy tests?

Here's another article about the Cmax, and that it's not able to get 47mpg cruising at a constant speed on level ground (whereas the Prius meets or exceeds it's EPA numbers).
Review: 2013 Ford C-Max Hybrid (Video) | The Truth About Cars

It's a case of consumer demands and government regulations to get high mpg vehicles, without sacrificing any safety or comfort. There is a barrier at which conventional cars can't get any higher mpg's, so they just stretch their estimates. I'm sure you can get the EPA numbers in both the Kia/Hyundais and the Fords, but it will take a level of driving that is unacceptable to most people.

10MPG low on winter gas and poor drivers possibly...


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Originally Posted by gt800

Well im gonna blame GM... Not biased or anything. I just dont like most camaro owners.

Yea, considering Ford is/should be running into the same thing. Their Fusion and Cmax hybrids seem to be coming up about 10 mpg low in reviews.

Well im gonna blame GM... Not biased or anything. I just dont like most camaro owners.

Haters gonna hate lol.

An article by AutoGuide.com estimates a $100 million dollar annual cost to Hyundai for reimbursements to owners. Evidence points to whistle-blowing to EPA by one of the Big Three's (GM, Ford, Chyrsler) executives.

Originally Posted by malagabee

How do I sign up for class action?

[troll mode activate/]
Write your name on a piece of paper and bury it along with a personal possession in the middle of a cross-roads at midnight, then wait to be contacted.
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More or less...

In case of the manual transmission the over all difference is 1 mpg. 3% difference. Would've been better if they used the highway difference of 3mpg which amounts to 7%. For those of us that drive mostly highway we're being under compensated. How do I sign up for class action?

Originally Posted by Dawgfan

https://hyundaimpginfo.com/overview/affected-models

Originally Posted by Pan Am Jack

Does anyone know at what VIN Number the rebate starts I filled out the data at the Hyundai web site an they claim my vin does not apply?

Make sure that your VIN doesn't contain any O (Ohs)...only zeros are permitted.