What voids the warranty??

[rippennets]

I am thinking about the veloster vs turbo and I hate to wait for it being brand brand new, that being said what would void the warranty on the veloster. I know there is a court case saying the aftermarket part must be causing the issue and then the warranty is at void but they would have to prove it. Can I were to add a turbo (since the hyundai people are saying the turbo will be a bolt on turbo) Would that void the warranty or is it even worth the time and effort? Or will orther measures boost the hp and torque?

Thanks
Rob

[Amplified2000]

Just about any modification "can" void the warranty.. IF it can be proven or reasonably assumed that the modification caused or contributed to the failure. Something like adding a turbo, or replacing the stock turbo with a large one could reasonably be assumed to void most of the powertrain warranty because of all the added stresses a large increase in power output can cause.. along those same lines any kind of ECU upgrade/flash would also likely void the powertrain warranty.

Upgrades like springs/struts would be very difficult to blame for an engine/trans failure.. etc.

As a long time player in the tuner car segment it boils down to this.. you can't have your cake and eat it too.. you gotta pay to play.

[1.6 T-GDI]

LOL, 99.99999999999% of aftermarket turbos will void ANY car.

Don't just think about the turbo.

The factory turbo is going to have a different transmission as well because the DCT cannot handle the torque.

[dianebrat]

Can I were to add a turbo (since the hyundai people are saying the turbo will be a bolt on turbo) Would that void the warranty or is it even worth the time and effort? Or will orther measures boost the hp and torque?

No way the factory turbo model is "bolt-on" not sure where you were getting fed that info, but it's not correct.
As the others have said, just modifying a car will not void its warranty, but any modifications you make to systems will almost always affect warranty related to them. i.e. you do an aftermarket turbo and have transmission issues, they'll deny warranty there.

Amplified2000 says it best

As a long time player in the tuner car segment it boils down to this.. you can't have your cake and eat it too.. you gotta pay to play.

[V-Turbo]

Off topic a bit-why can't DCT for the Veloster handle a turbo powered engined?

[Amplified2000]

Off topic a bit-why can't DCT for the Veloster handle a turbo powered engined?

As far as I know it's still just speculation but knowing what I do know about cars I would say that the clutches in the DCT would slip from the added torque on the turbo and they haven't found a way to increase their holding power enough to reliably use the trans in that model. It's also possible that being a dry system there are heat issues from the added power as well.

[Boston Red style]

I have talked to my dealership about this matter. They talked to hyundai and recieved an email back for me. I just have to find to go get it from dealership. I will post as soon as I get it!

[Curmudgeon]

As far as I know it's still just speculation but knowing what I do know about cars I would say that the clutches in the DCT would slip from the added torque on the turbo and they haven't found a way to increase their holding power enough to reliably use the trans in that model. It's also possible that being a dry system there are heat issues from the added power as well.

+1. I don't have any facts to offer (i.e. square inch clutch surfaces), but photos of the DCT clutches would confirm that they are miniscule in size compared to any standard manual transmission clutch.

[MTD]

The Hyundai DCT uses a dry clutch system where Audi/VW uses a wet system. The wet systems can handle more HP/tq but are typically not as efficien as a dry clutch.

[XanRules]

A lot of things are a grey area as far as the warranty goes.
An aftermarket turbo kit is not in this grey area. That is a 100% surefire void.

[tidybowl]

hopefully Hyundai doesnt pull a Mistubishi. i never got my Evo serviced at Mitsu. 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer Evo GSR: Evo Warranty Claims

[Castle]

what would void the warranty on the veloster?

100,001 miles.

[rippennets]

My dealership said it would be the same engine turboed because it won't require premium fuel..... I'm not sure if it's bull or not but I'm thinking of doing SRI or CAI and reflash the ecu to get about 30-40 more hp..... Is that bad and is the ecu able to be reset to factory so the dealer won't know?

[DeMarioii]

Dct can't handle the turbo... What about the base with an after market kit?


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[XanRules]

100,001 miles.

Among other things.

My dealership said it would be the same engine turboed because it won't require premium fuel..... I'm not sure if it's bull or not but I'm thinking of doing SRI or CAI and reflash the ecu to get about 30-40 more hp..... Is that bad and is the ecu able to be reset to factory so the dealer won't know?

What in the world makes you think you're going to get 40 more horsepower with an intake and a reflash?
There are no reflashes available for this car, at least not in the USA, and no, there probably isn't a way to reset the ECU so that the dealer won't know - most modern ECUs will log the changes.

[Dman]

I should have waited for a turbo, but loved the car and didn't! Does anyone know if a cold air intake will void the warranty? My salesmen said " I dont think so", I guess he wanted the sale!!

[jkt1954]

You might like the non-turbo original version more when you see the insurance cost, the sticker price, the gas cost, etc. I bought this as an economy car and that is exactly what I got! Jack it up to turbo and everthing else about it gets jacked up, too. Pretty simple.

[iloki]

You might like the non-turbo original version more when you see the insurance cost, the sticker price, the gas cost, etc. I bought this as an economy car and that is exactly what I got! Jack it up to turbo and everthing else about it gets jacked up, too. Pretty simple.

Insurance likely won't be too outrageous, at 200hp I doubt ins companies will gouge too badly over the n/a V. Gas cost really won't change.. the turbo is still 28/38 and reportedly doesn't require premium.

Sticker price.. can't argue there ;P Maintenance costs may also be a bit higher due to the turbo system.

anyways.. just my 2 cents.

[RayT2]

The law behind voiding a warranty by adding aftermarket parts is related to this.. Magnuson-Moss Act

Just remember the "Deep Pockets Syndrome", Hyundai has a lot more money and deeper pockets than you to dispute a claim. The Lemon Law is a different animal, it is more in line with dealer not fixing defects of a vehicle after several trips back for the same driveability related issue.
Been there done that with a Chevrolet vehicle way back in 1986.

Ray T

[Aeroscout977]

The law behind voiding a warranty by adding aftermarket parts is related to this.. Magnuson-Moss Act

Just remember the "Deep Pockets Syndrome", Hyundai has a lot more money and deeper pockets than you to dispute a claim. The Lemon Law is a different animal, it is more in line with dealer not fixing defects of a vehicle after several trips back for the same driveability related issue.
Been there done that with a Chevrolet vehicle way back in 1986.

Ray T

An important note is that burden of proof is on the dealer and not the customer.