Difference between manual and automatic

[SmartiesQc]

Hi,

Question for you. I've bought a Veloster with 6 speed but now I'm having buyer remorse. I'm coming from a 2008 Mazdaspeed3 and when I did test drive the vehicule the only available transmission was the dual clutch. Now the car is not a 0-60 demon and I know I won't have the kind of performance from my Mazda with that car.

But is there a difference in the 0-60 times between the manual and DCT. I have seen in some forums DCT should be quicker other it's the manual. Which one is quicker. Also there's some website that says 0-60 in 8.5 and other in around 10 sec. Big difference.

I don't know if I will regret the performance and would have been better with a Genesis coupe 2.0T. They are the same price here. I know I should wait for the turbo version, but I'm changing my car now not in a year.

Please let me know what are your thoughts, I can always change my order. God I don't know what to do...

[only1db]

if you wanted performance you should have bought a 6spd manual. The DCT is fine transmission and its shifts very smoothly, but its not geared for performance (neither is the manual for that matter, but its a little better) and if that is what your going after...manual hands down.

switch it up...if you havent physically bought it yet...

[dskoo65]

Hi,

Question for you. I've bought a Veloster with 6 speed but now I'm having buyer remorse. I'm coming from a 2008 Mazdaspeed3 and when I did test drive the vehicule the only available transmission was the dual clutch. Now the car is not a 0-60 demon and I know I won't have the kind of performance from my Mazda with that car.

But is there a difference in the 0-60 times between the manual and DCT. I have seen in some forums DCT should be quicker other it's the manual. Which one is quicker. Also there's some website that says 0-60 in 8.5 and other in around 10 sec. Big difference.

I don't know if I will regret the performance and would have been better with a Genesis coupe 2.0T. They are the same price here. I know I should wait for the turbo version, but I'm changing my car now not in a year.

Please let me know what are your thoughts, I can always change my order. God I don't know what to do...

when i test drove both i thought the 6 speed manual was a bit noticeably quicker. ive run right at 8.5 0-60 without much trouble. ive seen estimates on the DCT anywhere from 9.1-9.7. what sold me on the manual was the nice short throws...one of the better manuals i have driven in a while....plus, it was cheaper and lighter.

[SmartiesQc]

I have bought a 6 speed. It's just that when I made my test drive I was a DCT that I've tried and found that the power was lacking a bit. So I have ordered a manual but I don't know if the performance is better with the 6 speed.

I'm afraid even with the 6 speed that I found it slow as well. But I didn't do a comparison between manual and DCT.

I want to be sure I won,t regret my purchase and that I should have choose the Genesis 2.0T

But I have bought the 6 speed not the DCT.

[only1db]

well there is a world of difference between a fwd "eco sport" and a rwd sports car. So if your expecting times and handling to be on par with the coupe...your going to be disappointing. Two totally different machines.

[SmartiesQc]

I never in my life driven a rwd car. So don't know how it is. I don't hink they will be on par on performance because it's two different products appealing probably to different people.

It's just that want to make sure that the manual is faster than the DCT, that I can have fun with the car, that the mods intake and exhaust that I could make would make the car feel a little bit more fast and have fun with the car.

When I test drove the automatic I found it sluggish at best but I know that I really love manual cars so maybe it's the thing that was missing.

I have been on youtube to check the 0-60 vids and didn't find one with manual speed. They all seems DCT. If the 6 speed make 0-60 between 8.0 sec. and 8.5 I would live with that. I don't absolutly need a 6 seconds car anyway.

Hope it helps you understand my post. Now sure if i'm clear

[1.6 T-GDI]

You are having buyer's remorse, but can change your car and don't want to wait?

[nikkers20]

I had the same concent too - still undecided. In theory DCT should be faster because the whole point is to shift gears faster than humanly possible. i.e. VW says their DCT shifts in 0.04 seconds, I doubt any human can shift that fast.

Can't wait for some real 0-60 comparisons. Also here in Canada the DCT is more fuel efficient overall.

[Velosteraptor]

I doubt the DCT is faster than the MT because it is heavier. But also the moonroof is super heavy, so whether you ordered the base vs style/tech could make a difference in the 0-60 as well. I believe Motortrend got 8.8 seconds in the DCT tech so you may have a shot at better timing in the base MT especially. What package level did you get?

MT Base-2584 MT style/tech-2740
DCT base-2657 DCT style/tech-2813

[nikkers20]

Accorting to Hyundai 0-60 Times & Hyundai Quarter Mile Times | Hyundai Genesis 0-60, Sonata, Elantra, Accent, Tiburon, Santa Fe and 2011 Hyundai 0 to 60 stats!

2012 Hyundai Accent GLS Sedan (Manual) 0-60 mph 7.9 Quarter Mile 16.0
2012 Hyundai Accent SE Hatchback (Auto) 0-60 mph 8.2 Quarter Mile 16.3

The Accent has the same exact engine but no DCT on the Auto and it shows by the times. I am not sure if Accent is lighter (probably is) but I sure hope Veloster times are atleast that if not better.

[Velosteraptor]

This is what I collected on the V:

0-60: 8.5 - 8.9 sec
Qtr mile: 16.7 secs @84 mph
60-0: 125'

[Tjbaity6755]

I have the DCT and I have found a huge difference in performance between eco mode on and off without too much of a loss of mpg. If I want to shift gears I move it over to sport mode and shift away. I personally love my auto V

[SmartiesQc]

Wow it seems that Hyundai provided times for the Accent are pretty optimistic. I think a manual veloster with the tech pacakage should be between 8.0 and 8.5 if an Accent is close to 8.0 seconds, why a Veloster would be slower?

But every website I found it's ranging between 8.5 and 10.5 seconds. Big difference of 2 seconds, it's a whole world.

[WhiteCenturion]

Hi,

Question for you. I've bought a Veloster with 6 speed but now I'm having buyer remorse. I'm coming from a 2008 Mazdaspeed3 and when I did test drive the vehicule the only available transmission was the dual clutch. Now the car is not a 0-60 demon and I know I won't have the kind of performance from my Mazda with that car.

But is there a difference in the 0-60 times between the manual and DCT. I have seen in some forums DCT should be quicker other it's the manual. Which one is quicker. Also there's some website that says 0-60 in 8.5 and other in around 10 sec. Big difference.

I don't know if I will regret the performance and would have been better with a Genesis coupe 2.0T. They are the same price here. I know I should wait for the turbo version, but I'm changing my car now not in a year.

Please let me know what are your thoughts, I can always change my order. God I don't know what to do...

OK, here's my 2cents on your delimma, I bought a DCT/Style Veloster two weeks ago, and traded in an '08 speed3(black GT)- go figure, huh?

This is just my personal opionion, but may be relavent to you:

I first test drove the DCT, didn't like it at all (I think I was caught off guard by the "delay" when you first take off in 1st), went to another dealership, drove the 6speed, I thought I was going to love it, but after driving both I realized that I liked the DCT much better, went for another test drive in a DCT(different car than the first time) and bought it.

Everyone(reviewers) raves about how great the clutch/shifter is in the V-but it wasn't for me.

So here's why I didn't care for the 6speed, coming from the heavy "sport" clutch on the mazda, the V's felt way to light for me. I didn't get the feel I was looking for. The pedals are not set up for heel-toe(I tried and couldn't do it in the V) and I revmatch/downshifted ALL the time in the mazda.

To your original question, the quickness felt the same in both cars. I bought the car to save money on gas not to go fast anyways.

Now that I have 2k miles on the V, I am used to the DCT, how it accelerates and shifts, and I prefer it now for my commute. It was painfully slow that first week though (263hp to 138hp is quite a difference).

Guess what I'm getting at is you should drive both!

Were you on MSF btw?

Sorry about the wordy post

[SmartiesQc]

No I wasn't on MSF. For the cluch I think I might like it because the Mazdaspeed was hard on my left leg so if your mentionning it's like, it should be ok. You trade the same car and same year as me. I'm not searching for the same performance, I won't find it in the veloster, but if it's a fun car than I will like it.

[SmartiesQc]

Also I like to drive a stick more than an automatic. I find that I have more control and didn't like the paddles on the automatic. For me it's a gimmick. If there's no difference in 0-60 better save me some cash and pick the manual. But men those numbers we find on the internet seems between somebody that actually tested the car and some person that is throwing numbers in the air.

[dskoo65]

Wow it seems that Hyundai provided times for the Accent are pretty optimistic. I think a manual veloster with the tech pacakage should be between 8.0 and 8.5 if an Accent is close to 8.0 seconds, why a Veloster would be slower?

But every website I found it's ranging between 8.5 and 10.5 seconds. Big difference of 2 seconds, it's a whole world.

simple. the accent is lighter.

the V base with manual transmission is the lightest V you can get, and it is already around 150-200 lbs heavier than the accent. adding any package adds more weight.

[WhiteCenturion]

No I wasn't on MSF. For the cluch I think I might like it because the Mazdaspeed was hard on my left leg so if your mentionning it's like, it should be ok. You trade the same car and same year as me. I'm not searching for the same performance, I won't find it in the veloster, but if it's a fun car than I will like it.

You may very well love it then, if you didn't care for the heavy clutch on the MS3 this will be perfect for you.

As for the performance trade off I got my V to save on gas(about $180 per month) so I'm with you there.

One thing you wont miss are all the rattles!

[SmartiesQc]

You are right on the rattles. My speed was a dash rattles queen. Yes economy on gas will be there as well in my case.

[lsrothstein]

I have the DCT and I have found a huge difference in performance between eco mode on and off without too much of a loss of mpg. If I want to shift gears I move it over to sport mode and shift away. I personally love my auto V

The DCT has a neat little trick also. You can leave the shifter in the auto position, and still shift with the paddles. Works nice if you need quick acceleration, you just down shift one of two gears. But don't forget to shift up again. Also, if you use the paddles, then leave it for a few seconds, it will revert back to automatic.