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    If I lived in San Francisco, I surely wouldn't expect getting EPA ratings out of any car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velos510 View Post
    Im aware of what needs to happen to even qualify for a buy back i had to do that with Nissan who sold me a certified car which had nothing certified about it, if you read, you'll see that i posted based on a question since some other people have done it. Obviously, MPG vary depending how the car is driven and other outside variables. Answering your question, no, it hasnt made a huge difference on the purchase BUT add everything else that wasn't totally notable initially and some people (even here) would start thinking.
    Except they have not gotten a buy back on this issue, not sure where you're getting that from. The fact that you were asking about buy back in this thread does tend to connect the subject, there's no way for me to know what you really know about buy back and are informed, vs. the people who feel so wronged that they feel they DESERVE a buy back for 2mpg difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxxotiknightz View Post
    who is exceeding the MPG for a N/A. Ive never met someone who has and I've never beaten or even met the stickered numbers.
    I did! Going down a long hill with a strong tail wind at my back!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dianebrat View Post
    Except they have not gotten a buy back on this issue, not sure where you're getting that from. The fact that you were asking about buy back in this thread does tend to connect the subject, there's no way for me to know what you really know about buy back and are informed, vs. the people who feel so wronged that they feel they DESERVE a buy back for 2mpg difference.
    Hyundai, Kia Face Class Action Law Suit For Inaccurate MPG Labels | Hybrid Cars

    Totally agree with your fact about being uninformed and about some people feeling wronged, i should have been a bit more clear on it. But that link was where i've read it, so thats clearly why the question arose. I assumed that you could based on what they're trying to do (obviously what they're trying to do is far from simple and in another state).
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    lots of folks have broken 40mpg with their velosters. it is entirely possible. i myself have achieved over 40 a few times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velos510 View Post
    Hyundai, Kia Face Class Action Law Suit For Inaccurate MPG Labels | Hybrid Cars

    Totally agree with your fact about being uninformed and about some people feeling wronged, i should have been a bit more clear on it. But that link was where i've read it, so thats clearly why the question arose. I assumed that you could based on what they're trying to do (obviously what they're trying to do is far from simple and in another state).
    I don't pay much heed to what folks in those linked suits ask, it's just a bunch of greedy ambulance chasers looking to make money for their firms, they can certain ASK for a buy back, that doesn't mean they would ever in a million years get them.. They can ask for a pony in the settlement too, doesn't mean they'll get one

    And so no one gets the wrong idea, I'm a very big fan of our legal system and lawyers in general, but not of the kind of bottom dwellers that encourage these frivolous class action suits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dianebrat View Post
    I don't pay much heed to what folks in those linked suits ask, it's just a bunch of greedy ambulance chasers looking to make money for their firms, they can certain ASK for a buy back, that doesn't mean they would ever in a million years get them.. They can ask for a pony in the settlement too, doesn't mean they'll get one

    And so no one gets the wrong idea, I'm a very big fan of our legal system and lawyers in general, but not of the kind of bottom dwellers that encourage these frivolous class action suits.
    Putting it in that perspective, your right. I knew that it was probably not something that would work based on what i've dealt with, but it still kinda makes you wonder.

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    So if the sticker advertised 38 instead of 40 would most of you still purchased one?

    fuel economy is so dependent on the environment and the drivers habits then anything. That's why I don't really even pay attention to the fuel economy "ESTIMATES" not guarantees.

    I driver in San Fran or Colorado can't possibly expect to get the same fuel economy as a driver in Miami or Texas.

    We all drive a very affordable, very well option, fun to drive and cooling looking vehicle, that has. A great warrant and really hasn't had many bugs for a newly released car.

    Im pretty happy with that.
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    It's not all about the mpgs... It is about the value of the car getting demolished. and as for the if the sticker read less, would you have considered it.... answer is doubtful....at 40, this was the lowest mpg car i considered.

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    I cannot sell my Veloster to save my life. And its also one of the lowest priced on the internet. This is only going to make it worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MTD View Post
    So if the sticker advertised 38 instead of 40 would most of you still purchased one?
    No. I wouldnt have bought it. I was looking at several other cars at the time and went with this one because of the MPG.

    As for the people talking about a buy back it's probably because the ohio lawsuit is asking for reimbursement and a buy back option. I honestly was worried the MPG numbers would come back to bite me later and it did. I'd sell my V, but I know I'll never get enough out of it after this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MTD View Post
    So if the sticker advertised 38 instead of 40 would most of you still purchased one?
    Maybe, but probably not.

    My wife is the primary user of the car, she commutes in it while I commute by bus. Since she's driving it pretty much every day, she has to be happy with it. She wanted a car with at least 40mpg. After doing research, the top two cars on our list were the Ford Focus Hatchback and the Veloster. We like the styling/design of both cars. We test drove a Focus, and felt cramped in it. Coming from a Beetle, we were used to tons of leg room. The Focus had limited leg room. We both felt like we were crammed into it. The Veloster is just as roomy as the Beetle. The infotainment system is more intuitive than the Focus' MyFordTouch system.

    As I mentioned before, we're happy with the Veloster. I'm especially happy with it after reading about the lack of reliability of the Focus. I realize that, had we bought a Focus, it may have been very reliable, and it may not have achieved 40mpg, either. Even if it had hit 40mpg regularly, and had no mechanical issues, it still would have felt cramped.

    If the Veloster had been rated at 38, we may have considered it, if we'd had to expand our search criteria to include cars with less than 40mpg ratings.
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    I would be curious to see how many of these cars that have all been rated at 40, actually get it on a regular basis. I think if a solid 40 is the goal, a buyer might have to look at a hybrid, diesel or one of the special versions of a certain car.
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    Curious is that my MPG sticker straight up said 38MPG...so I don't know how long ago they started switching ratings around...

    Either way, LOL CLASS ACTION!

    The lawyers and by extension their firms will pocket 99% of the money.

    YOU WILL SEE NOTHING. You won't win. You'll lose. You'll probably not have a good day.

    Tell me the person who nails EPA every single day and I'll eat my ****. Not my shorts, but my ****.

    This is winter, I'll be lucky to crack 25MPG combined for the next 4 months much less seeing above 30...

    Some people are just happy to use this as an excuse for their appalling driving habits with no due respect to you or anyone who has felt 'hurt' by this.

    I see these kinds of threads and this nonsense on all forums, don't think the Veloster is somehow a unicorn for not reaching its EPA targets.

    I never, not once during city driving ever hit EPA estimates in the Focus, I never expected much different in the Veloster. Why?

    Because city driving. Because stop and go. Because by the time I might get to cruising speed I have to slow down. Also, because I drive like an enthusiastic goon so I wouldn't expect reasonable mileage anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MTD View Post
    I would be curious to see how many of these cars that have all been rated at 40, actually get it on a regular basis. I think if a solid 40 is the goal, a buyer might have to look at a hybrid, diesel or one of the special versions of a certain car.
    I actually was looking at either a Mazda 3, a Gold TDI , or the veloster. I chose the veloster for the MPG and the warranty. Looking back I should have gotten the TDI
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush View Post
    I did! Going down a long hill with a strong tail wind at my back!
    Okay I now have to back paddle on my sarcasm... I was wrong...

    With all this talk of rebates from Hyundai I decided to check my mileage today on a trip from Moncton NB to Truro NS. A 180.9 km trip. I detoured into Sackville NB and Amherst NS shutting the engine down and restarting 6 times so it wasn't all highway driving. The V is n/a with a m/t. It has 35000km on the odo. I use Shell V-Tec and Mobile 1 5w20. Installed is a Magnaflow Cat Back and I'm currently rolling on Good Year WRT Ice Radials (winter tires) 16". And the outside temp was +2 to -1 C and the road was dry and clear with light to no wind. I averaged 65km/h on the trip and the actual fuel consumption ended up being...4.9l/100km! I was surprised! I'm still not turning the money down though
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    Looks like Hyundai could be in trouble at home too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RPW00Mirage View Post
    lots of folks have broken 40mpg with their velosters. it is entirely possible. i myself have achieved over 40 a few times.
    I agree its possible but not routine, unless u live on flat terain and can cruise at 45 for 20+ mins. In PA im lucky to get 35 highway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rippennets View Post
    I agree its possible but not routine, unless u live on flat terain and can cruise at 45 for 20+ mins. In PA im lucky to get 35 highway.
    But if the car CAN achieve the MPG in 'ideal' conditions, isn't this whole lawsuit invalid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VelosterGC View Post
    But if the car CAN achieve the MPG in 'ideal' conditions, isn't this whole lawsuit invalid?
    To arrive at that conclusion requires Deduction and Logic - both of which haven't any place at the Feeding Trough. You too, are going On Report to the Entitlement Police....
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