FMIC kit.... thoughts? coming soon..

[turbosocks]

This is all from the vturbo forums. I am not selling or trying to sell anything here just wondering if people are interested in an aftermarket fmic setup. I am not a vendor on here so I won't be selling or trying to sell anything just seeing what people think about an aftermarket fmic kit.


Ok, so after some discussions with my supplier about the parts I think I came up with a setup that will probably work on the v turbo.




It would be a one side in and out style intercooler to keep the piping near stock length but would have quite a bigger core size than stock and would be less prone to heat soak by being nearer to the engine bay.




The kit would use a greddy or hks style bov flang and would come with either style bov..




The kit would be complete and ready to bolt on for around 550$ or so, shipped in the USA. This would include the intercooler, hardware to bolt it up, couplers, bov , bov flange welded into the piping, ports for sensors in the piping, clamps, etc.




The hardest thing to figure out will be installing the boost pressure sensor into the piping as I don't have access to any aluminum welding equipment. I may be able to find a way to salvage the stock connection and use it that way.




Just wanting to see if there is any real interest because this would be quite the time and money investment for me to take on if there are not many people interested in actually buying it when it is completed.

Would only be able to choose black or blue couplers.




I have not chosen a core brand yet. Iam probably going to be using cores from one of my suppliers which have done me very well in the past. They are a great value and work very well.




Doesn't seem to be as much interest as I would have thought in the fmic setup.




I got with my supplier the other day and for a price they are willing to make a custom pipe for the veloster to connect the bov and the boost pressure sensor to.




I did a little pred design yesterday and this all looks very feasible.i am excited to do this but will need some more interest to get the custom pipes made as the minimum order on a custom pipe is ten pieces.




It looks like the pipe length will remain quite close to the same as stock while upgrading the intercooler core significantly. This will mean much better cooling ability with little to no more lag from the turbo.

[theanimal]

$550 seems like a pretty fair price.

I want to start modding the car but I'm fighting with all my will to keep it stock lol

[elecblue06]

if it cuts down on iat's sign me up

[turbosocks]

I should be able to try it out soon. I am looking to a vendor for some support on getting the initial batch of custom pipes ordered up. Then it will be smooth sailing and I can design and test the prototype.

the iats with the stock in seem relatively good but the issue I am starting to see is some heat soak on continuous runs of boosting or right after taking off from sitting at a light.

[elecblue06]

I should be able to try it out soon. I am looking to a vendor for some support on getting the initial batch of custom pipes ordered up. Then it will be smooth sailing and I can design and test the prototype.

the iats with the stock in seem relatively good but the issue I am starting to see is some heat soak on continuous runs of boosting or right after taking off from sitting at a light.

well heat soak is terrible lol

[only1db]

drive it at night....haha

FMIC would be nice...as long as the core and piping fit properly and are the correct diameter...

we will also need dyno numbers along with IAT logs for a before and after.

[turbosocks]

for sure. I am just needing to get some money rounded up so I can get the custom pipes made for the BPS and BOV.

right now I am at the point where I am going to order up all the parts (minus the custom pipe) to do a test fit.

Stock hot pipe is 2" and stock cold pipe looks to be 2.5" so they will be matched to stock.

the hot pipe will remain under the car and only be replaced at the front. I don't see any reason to replace the entire hot pipe until the car has an upgraded turbo.

The rest of the FMIC system will support a bigger turbo though, probably up to around 400hp easy, just a ballpark..

I won't be able to get logs until I can get enough interest to get the custom pipes made unfortunately. Right now, it is not looking like there would be close to 20 people interested in a FMIC kit.

[elecblue06]

drive it at night....haha

FMIC would be nice...as long as the core and piping fit properly and are the correct diameter...

we will also need dyno numbers along with IAT logs for a before and after.

once I get my VT I'll be doing extensive logging with palmer scanXL if it allows me to

its a shame you're not closer I have a couple of shops by me that could help and have tig welding abilities

[turbosocks]

yeah, i wish I was still back in MI. I had access to my dads machine shop on weekends. They do automotive seating, suspension and exhaust. I believe their seating mechanisms are in the Vturbo. I know the rear tail pipe resonators are made by them..

but good news. I got word from my supplier that they will actually take the lead on the kit, which means it will be all welded up instead of using couplers. I just need to get them a donor in the LA area. Once finished, I will be the sole distributor for a while.

[elecblue06]

nice man let me know.. i'm not going to mod the car much.. muff delete FMIC and dp will probably be as far as I go

[Veloster_Rocks]

I should be able to try it out soon. I am looking to a vendor for some support on getting the initial batch of custom pipes ordered up. Then it will be smooth sailing and I can design and test the prototype.

the iats with the stock in seem relatively good but the issue I am starting to see is some heat soak on continuous runs of boosting or right after taking off from sitting at a light.

gee didnt i mention that a few weeks ago ;P Ducting be damned, lmao!
GL with the prototype

[elecblue06]

gee didnt i mention that a few weeks ago ;P Ducting be damned, lamo!
GL with the prototype

that makes 2 of us

[turbosocks]

well, we will be able to say that depending on how the FMIC kit ends up performing!

I would hate to see how the car does without the IC ducting..

[elecblue06]

well, we will be able to say that depending on how the FMIC kit ends up performing!

I would hate to see how the car does without the IC ducting..

well based on the video of the dyno we found a bit ago.. i'd say it should help alot..

[turbosocks]

yeah, but the video posted a while ago had some wack looking numbers and was also with a TUNE.. the tune could have accounted for most of the gain. They could have compared a dyno of a heat-soaked stocker to a cold, just installed FMIC.. so many variables in that video..

The only way to really compare them would be pretty much identical testing on days with very similar temps at the same locations, etc.

[elecblue06]

yeah, but the video posted a while ago had some wack looking numbers and was also with a TUNE.. the tune could have accounted for most of the gain. They could have compared a dyno of a heat-soaked stocker to a cold, just installed FMIC.. so many variables in that video..

The only way to really compare them would be pretty much identical testing on days with very similar temps at the same locations, etc.

they posted stock just a tune.. and then with tune and FMIC with fmic was like an extra 15 hp. if you look at the one with the fmic the power curve is much better then the other ones where it had the dip. what I am looking at is gain.. i dont care if he put down 12 hp stock then 18 with full bolt ons and a tune. thats still like a 30% increase

[turbosocks]

i don't think there is any way in hell that it legitimately put down 15hp more with just the FMIC change.

Even with bad heat soak there just isn't enough room to gain 15 hp in cooling alone. From what I have read, 10 degrees is good for roughly 1% power gain. So unless the stock intercooler is pretty much doing nothing or blocked by a raccoon, I don't see how whatever setup they had could achieve such results.

Either their dyno is wack or the numbers are skewed or the video is mis-represented..

Maybe I looked at a different video? Are there any details other than the video for the FMIC? Did they use meth injection? 15hp from an intercooler in a low output vehicle like this is just insane.

The videos I am talking about was with the tune and PWR intercooler.. showed a stock baseline of 116hp and then 174hp with intercooler and a tune..
and 158hp max with the tune..

Then they also have a baseline dyno with 116hp also has no dip in power as seen in other dynos.

[turbosocks]

going off of their numbers, with an ECU tune + intercooler the car can go from 116 whp to 175 whp.

That is a 50% increase in power which is pretty much unheard of (that I know anyway)

Would make the car around 220-230whp after a tune + FMIC kit according to some of the US dynos. if that is the case, this car responds much better to a tune and FMIC kit than a gen coupe.

[elecblue06]

going off of their numbers, with an ECU tune + intercooler the car can go from 116 whp to 175 whp.

That is a 50% increase in power which is pretty much unheard of (that I know anyway)

Would make the car around 220-230whp after a tune + FMIC kit according to some of the US dynos. if that is the case, this car responds much better to a tune and FMIC kit than a gen coupe.

not really surprising to me.. the chevy sonic gets like a 40-50% gain with a tune and a cobalt ss turbo gets like a 30-40% gain.. and thats for JUST a tune i mean hell

[MTD]

Without actually knowing the background of some of these videos, who made them, where the car is from, what the tune is, etc I think its pretty hard to guesstimate numbers based on an unknown source.

There are several companies in North America that want VTs to work one, but as of yet, no one has come forward. I think its great that Turbosocks is taking the initiative to try to create parts for the car.