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    ShocksWorks/Neotech Coilover and rear suspension add-on,big brake kit

    I just spoke with somenone from neotech(in korea).
    they look like they are great products.coilover get's dyno charts too. description and spec coming soon
    they have coilover for the V and VT like thisShocksWorks/Neotech Coilover and rear suspension add-on-dsc_0042.gif ShocksWorks/Neotech Coilover and rear suspension add-on-dsc_0055.jpg
    --->Those are for the genesis,but you see what it look like--->ShocksWorks/Neotech Coilover and rear suspension add-on-web4.jpgShocksWorks/Neotech Coilover and rear suspension add-on-web2.jpg
    big brake kit

    ShocksWorks/Neotech Coilover and rear suspension add-on-2011-11-20-13.48.44.jpgShocksWorks/Neotech Coilover and rear suspension add-on-dsc_0019.jpg
    rear suspension add-on
    (like an independant suspension) I don't know how it work,but I like this!)
    ShocksWorks/Neotech Coilover and rear suspension add-on-web3.jpg

    he will give me price soon!!!
    Sorry for my bad english, I'm a french Canadian.
    Last edited by only1db; 11-21-2012 at 05:34 PM.

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    Thumbs up Big Brake kit,Suspension from Neotech/ShockWorks the Best in Korea

    I just spoke with somenone from neotech(in korea).they look like they are great products.coilover get's dyno charts too. description and spec coming soon

    they have coilover for the V and VT like this ShocksWorks/Neotech Coilover and rear suspension add-on-2011-11-20-13.48.35.jpgShocksWorks/Neotech Coilover and rear suspension add-on-dsc_0055.jpgShocksWorks/Neotech Coilover and rear suspension add-on-dsc_0042.gif
    --->Those are for the genesis,but you see what it look like--->ShocksWorks/Neotech Coilover and rear suspension add-on-web4.jpgShocksWorks/Neotech Coilover and rear suspension add-on-web2.jpgShocksWorks/Neotech Coilover and rear suspension add-on-web1__.jpgShocksWorks/Neotech Coilover and rear suspension add-on-.jpg

    big brake kit


    ShocksWorks/Neotech Coilover and rear suspension add-on-dsc_0019.jpgShocksWorks/Neotech Coilover and rear suspension add-on-2011-11-20-13.48.44.jpg

    rear suspension add-on
    (like an independant suspension) I don't know how it work,but I like this!)
    ShocksWorks/Neotech Coilover and rear suspension add-on-web3.jpg



    Sorry for my bad english, I'm a french Canadian.
    Last edited by only1db; 11-21-2012 at 05:25 PM.

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    holy huge brakes batman, they look good, but IMO a floating rotor setup is way more then anyone will need for this car for a while and even still wont be needed unless some REALLY tracks the car (road coarse/ autoX) every week. That being said I'm interested

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    That appears to be a 4 piston setup with a 14 inch rotor. Same as on my Shelby. Thats a lot of brakes for a car almost a thousand pounds lighter than my car. Im afraid without some master Cylinder or proportioning valve work that setup will dive the front end horrendously.
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    that rear suspension add-on is interesting. im curious as to how it works
    Keep it gangster.

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    double post! want to see how the rear add-on works!
    Keep it gangster.

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    as requested hows it work ³×¿ÀÅ×Å©

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    ³×¿ÀÅ×Å© how does the rear work

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    returning my e-mail:

    he said description: The rear link is our special lateral rod.
    you know the rear suspension of
    veloster is torsion beam type which is not good for wild curve and car comfort.

    So this link can back up the torsion beam so that the rear can move like muti
    link type which is used for expensive car.
    It is also called Z link, watts link.

    Installation: Suspension instsllation is really important and brakes, more than suspension.
    many tuning shop say that they can install suspension well but they don't. Also
    the special lateral rod of veloster needs a little bit of welding when you
    install it.

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    I dont see how that will work. The torsion bar is still connected. While I do understand that the adjustment is made on the bar, I'm not seeing how its actually going to move. Perhaps I'm missing something.

    Also the geometry is going to be all screwy if those bars are NOT parallel with the ground.

    I will also state that unless there is SOME adjustment( or an all new master cylinder) those brakes are EASILY going to over power the OEM master cylinder. There will NOT be enough fluid to use them to their full potential...if there is your foot will be going to the floor to move them.

    I modified your original post...the person is NOT a vendor... We can all appreciate the sharing of information and of new products coming, but when sed people come on and introduce themselves...then we can talk about prices blah blah blah....
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    It appears all they're doing with the rear is installing it as a "live axle" (minus drive parts, of course) and a Watts link - it is not any more "independant" than our current suspension, and by appearances possibly weighs more unsprung.

    If anyone is familiar with the S197 Mustang rear suspension, drop the panhard and add a Watts Link to that and you'll have this suspension, in a nutshell.

    It IS a bit more-sophisticated; and I will not wholesale condemn the above setup before actually seeing it in action (as this setup works pretty damn well on a Mustang when utilised properly!) - but one must have realistic expectations here.
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    This makes it in no way independant. the links are just gonna follow the movement of the torsion beam

    its just another failed attempt at upgrading the rear suspension. it will never be independant unless that torsion beam is replaced with something else. anyways the torsion beam handles fine on slalom like that its just jumpy on uneven pavement.
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    That could actually make a very large improvement on our cars. The addition of a watts link to a solid axle is huge and basically the same thing.
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    replacing a panhard bar with the watts link on a mustang probably does wonders because it will keep the axle from swinging left to right. but are torsion beam is NOT a live rear axle and has no panhard bar to begin with. GTIs had torsion beams for decades and and Ive never seen anyone put a watts link there
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    I was working on a very similar rear-end reinforcement kit for mine before I lost my fab job back in June but never got to finish it. This kit here doesn't make it independent. What the links do is keep the rear end from toe-ing in or out during very hard cornering. Plain and simple. They make similar kits for the Mazda 2's. The rear arms off the torsion beam are part of the weak link in our rear suspensions and will cause "tail-whip" due to arm deflection/rebound in certain driving conditions like high speed slalom transitions and tight on-off ramps.

    By adding parts such as these, it should greatly help with rear adhesion by keeping the tires planted and make a large improvement in our otherwise "low-end" stock rear torsion beam suspension.

    It still won't address the "spring-board-effect" of the rear shocks being mounted in a different arc plane than the springs.
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    I am interested, is this available for veloster turbo model?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vandread View Post
    I am interested, is this available for veloster turbo model?
    Since the rear ends are basically identical I'd say yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by velogangster View Post
    replacing a panhard bar with the watts link on a mustang probably does wonders because it will keep the axle from swinging left to right. but are torsion beam is NOT a live rear axle and has no panhard bar to begin with. GTIs had torsion beams for decades and and Ive never seen anyone put a watts link there
    proper dampening / spring rates help the rear end, as well as a good rear sway many cars have had rear torsion beams and not had the issues
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    Quote Originally Posted by velogangster View Post
    replacing a panhard bar with the watts link on a mustang probably does wonders because it will keep the axle from swinging left to right. but are torsion beam is NOT a live rear axle and has no panhard bar to begin with. GTIs had torsion beams for decades and and Ive never seen anyone put a watts link there
    But this makes it no-longer a "torsion beam" axle, just a "stick" - that was my point.

    With this modification, the axle is now located fore/aft by two (very short) lower trailing-links, and (it appears) torsionally & laterally by the Watts. (I cannot see if there is a center-link in the pictures or the video - and the video appears to have the Watts link pivot-bushings flex quite a bit, suggesting it is being used for torsional location as well)

    This is NOT a "Bolt-N-Go" modification. Some Assembly and Fabrication Skill MAY be Required..... (Read: "MAY" = WILL)

    Also - the torsion-beam in and of itself is not "crap" for suspension, just the spring and damping rates on our particular vehicle. It is an Industry Standard Practice.
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    I wonder how much unsprung weight those rotors and calipers will add? 15-20lbs each.
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