ShocksWorks/Neotech Coilover and rear suspension add-on

[13rooks]

I just spoke with somenone from neotech(in korea).
they look like they are great products.coilover get's dyno charts too. description and spec coming soon
they have coilover for the V and VT like this
--->Those are for the genesis,but you see what it look like--->
big brake kit

rear suspension add-on(like an independant suspension) I don't know how it work,but I like this!)


he will give me price soon!!!Sorry for my bad english, I'm a french Canadian.

[13rooks]

I just spoke with somenone from neotech(in korea).they look like they are great products.coilover get's dyno charts too. description and spec coming soon

they have coilover for the V and VT like this
--->Those are for the genesis,but you see what it look like--->

big brake kit



rear suspension add-on(like an independant suspension) I don't know how it work,but I like this!)




Sorry for my bad english, I'm a french Canadian.

[elecblue06]

holy huge brakes batman, they look good, but IMO a floating rotor setup is way more then anyone will need for this car for a while and even still wont be needed unless some REALLY tracks the car (road coarse/ autoX) every week. That being said I'm interested

[gt800]

That appears to be a 4 piston setup with a 14 inch rotor. Same as on my Shelby. Thats a lot of brakes for a car almost a thousand pounds lighter than my car. Im afraid without some master Cylinder or proportioning valve work that setup will dive the front end horrendously.

[velogangster]

that rear suspension add-on is interesting. im curious as to how it works

[velogangster]

double post! want to see how the rear add-on works!

[13rooks]

as requested hows it work ³×¿ÀÅ×Å©

[13rooks]

³×¿ÀÅ×Å© how does the rear work

[13rooks]

returning my e-mail:

he said description: The rear link is our special lateral rod.
you know the rear suspension of
veloster is torsion beam type which is not good for wild curve and car comfort.

So this link can back up the torsion beam so that the rear can move like muti
link type which is used for expensive car.
It is also called Z link, watts link.

Installation: Suspension instsllation is really important and brakes, more than suspension.
many tuning shop say that they can install suspension well but they don't. Also
the special lateral rod of veloster needs a little bit of welding when you
install it.

[only1db]

I dont see how that will work. The torsion bar is still connected. While I do understand that the adjustment is made on the bar, I'm not seeing how its actually going to move. Perhaps I'm missing something.

Also the geometry is going to be all screwy if those bars are NOT parallel with the ground.

I will also state that unless there is SOME adjustment( or an all new master cylinder) those brakes are EASILY going to over power the OEM master cylinder. There will NOT be enough fluid to use them to their full potential...if there is your foot will be going to the floor to move them.

I modified your original post...the person is NOT a vendor... We can all appreciate the sharing of information and of new products coming, but when sed people come on and introduce themselves...then we can talk about prices blah blah blah....

[BluMeanie]

It appears all they're doing with the rear is installing it as a "live axle" (minus drive parts, of course) and a Watts link - it is not any more "independant" than our current suspension, and by appearances possibly weighs more unsprung.

If anyone is familiar with the S197 Mustang rear suspension, drop the panhard and add a Watts Link to that and you'll have this suspension, in a nutshell.

It IS a bit more-sophisticated; and I will not wholesale condemn the above setup before actually seeing it in action (as this setup works pretty damn well on a Mustang when utilised properly!) - but one must have realistic expectations here.

[velogangster]

This makes it in no way independant. the links are just gonna follow the movement of the torsion beam

its just another failed attempt at upgrading the rear suspension. it will never be independant unless that torsion beam is replaced with something else. anyways the torsion beam handles fine on slalom like that its just jumpy on uneven pavement.

[gt800]

That could actually make a very large improvement on our cars. The addition of a watts link to a solid axle is huge and basically the same thing.

[velogangster]

replacing a panhard bar with the watts link on a mustang probably does wonders because it will keep the axle from swinging left to right. but are torsion beam is NOT a live rear axle and has no panhard bar to begin with. GTIs had torsion beams for decades and and Ive never seen anyone put a watts link there

[GreyGhost12]

I was working on a very similar rear-end reinforcement kit for mine before I lost my fab job back in June but never got to finish it. This kit here doesn't make it independent. What the links do is keep the rear end from toe-ing in or out during very hard cornering. Plain and simple. They make similar kits for the Mazda 2's. The rear arms off the torsion beam are part of the weak link in our rear suspensions and will cause "tail-whip" due to arm deflection/rebound in certain driving conditions like high speed slalom transitions and tight on-off ramps.

By adding parts such as these, it should greatly help with rear adhesion by keeping the tires planted and make a large improvement in our otherwise "low-end" stock rear torsion beam suspension.

It still won't address the "spring-board-effect" of the rear shocks being mounted in a different arc plane than the springs.

[Vandread]

I am interested, is this available for veloster turbo model?

[GreyGhost12]

I am interested, is this available for veloster turbo model?

Since the rear ends are basically identical I'd say yes.

[elecblue06]

replacing a panhard bar with the watts link on a mustang probably does wonders because it will keep the axle from swinging left to right. but are torsion beam is NOT a live rear axle and has no panhard bar to begin with. GTIs had torsion beams for decades and and Ive never seen anyone put a watts link there

proper dampening / spring rates help the rear end, as well as a good rear sway many cars have had rear torsion beams and not had the issues

[BluMeanie]

replacing a panhard bar with the watts link on a mustang probably does wonders because it will keep the axle from swinging left to right. but are torsion beam is NOT a live rear axle and has no panhard bar to begin with. GTIs had torsion beams for decades and and Ive never seen anyone put a watts link there

But this makes it no-longer a "torsion beam" axle, just a "stick" - that was my point.

With this modification, the axle is now located fore/aft by two (very short) lower trailing-links, and (it appears) torsionally & laterally by the Watts. (I cannot see if there is a center-link in the pictures or the video - and the video appears to have the Watts link pivot-bushings flex quite a bit, suggesting it is being used for torsional location as well)

This is NOT a "Bolt-N-Go" modification. Some Assembly and Fabrication Skill MAY be Required..... (Read: "MAY" = WILL)

Also - the torsion-beam in and of itself is not "crap" for suspension, just the spring and damping rates on our particular vehicle. It is an Industry Standard Practice.

[MTD]

I wonder how much unsprung weight those rotors and calipers will add? 15-20lbs each.